LighterPack final shakedown
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LighterPack final shakedown
I leave for a 9-day, 100-mile trip on Friday and would appreciate a final shakedown of my LighterPack here:
https://lighterpack.com/r/w8pyl8
I posted this a few weeks ago but I've done a couple shakedown trips since and made some changes so am now looking to finalize everything. Thanks!
https://lighterpack.com/r/w8pyl8
I posted this a few weeks ago but I've done a couple shakedown trips since and made some changes so am now looking to finalize everything. Thanks!
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Nice. We have a lot of the same (or similar) gear. Let me know how the XMid works out. I'm using same tent for my 5 day trip in August. Did you forget tent stakes?
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
I've used the X-Mid for 2 one-nighter trips and I absolutely love it so far. It's crazy how easy it is to set up, the inner is actually pretty big for a 1p tent, & the vestibules are huge. My friend & I waited out a hail storm with high winds and a quick, shitty pitch and it held up very well. Only complaint is the footprint is pretty large.
Good call on the stakes - the weight I listed for the tent includes the stakes which I initially packed in the tent stuff sack but since I've been packing them separate I should definitely add an entry for them to make sure I don't forget them.
Good call on the stakes - the weight I listed for the tent includes the stakes which I initially packed in the tent stuff sack but since I've been packing them separate I should definitely add an entry for them to make sure I don't forget them.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Nice list.
I noticed you have two cans of fuel. Do you need two cans or would a single larger can give you the 16 boils you need?
I also like to take a small piece of tyvek (2'x4'). Great for covering a wet log for sitting, for setting your pack on when packing or unpacking, and as a vestibule/door mat. Many of the campsites are sandy.
I noticed you have two cans of fuel. Do you need two cans or would a single larger can give you the 16 boils you need?
I also like to take a small piece of tyvek (2'x4'). Great for covering a wet log for sitting, for setting your pack on when packing or unpacking, and as a vestibule/door mat. Many of the campsites are sandy.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
I'll actually be boiling 3x a day (breakfast, coffee, dinner), with 7 full days, 1 day with just dinner, and 1 day with just breakfast and coffee, so need 24 boils, which an 8oz canister might fall short of. However I just called the Rock Harbor Lodge and they said even though the Windigo Store isn't open until June 6, if we arrive in Windigo we can still buy basic supplies from there before then, so I think I'll just carry a 4oz canister for days 1-5, then on day 5 pickup another 4oz canister from Windigo (& dump the empty canister there if possible). If I happen to run out before Windigo one of my buddies has a twig-burning stove I can use.
As for tyvek, I looked into it for a footprint for my tent, which I may do someday, but am gonna continue to go without it for now. A smaller piece would be nice though, I'll see if I can find one near me.
As for tyvek, I looked into it for a footprint for my tent, which I may do someday, but am gonna continue to go without it for now. A smaller piece would be nice though, I'll see if I can find one near me.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
I got 2 boils a day from a 4z can for 14nights on the island, i suspect a single 4z can will get you through your trip
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Interesting, what stove do you have? I usually get 12-14 boils from a 4oz can
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
just a jetboil and i'd just boil the dinner water (2cup or less) and my AM coffee (about 16-20z). AM coffee I'd stop as soon as it started to boil but dinner I always bring to a full rolling boil before dumping in the bag. I made tea a few times but it was always on the Solo stove
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
I've used my XMid once, on last year's 5 day Hermit Loop in the Grand Canyon. Tent worked great, but IR and GC are very different. I was thinking of tent stakes as the GC camp sites are like cement. I will be interested to hear how speaking out the Xmid on IR works.MongooseBoxing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 7:30 pm I've used the X-Mid for 2 one-nighter trips and I absolutely love it so far. It's crazy how easy it is to set up, the inner is actually pretty big for a 1p tent, & the vestibules are huge. My friend & I waited out a hail storm with high winds and a quick, shitty pitch and it held up very well. Only complaint is the footprint is pretty large.
Good call on the stakes - the weight I listed for the tent includes the stakes which I initially packed in the tent stuff sack but since I've been packing them separate I should definitely add an entry for them to make sure I don't forget them.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Of the two trips I've used it on so far, one was desert camping in Utah and the other was in Michigan along the Manistee River, and the tent & stakes did just fine in both. You do however need to be cautious of pushing them into the ground too hard before making sure it's a soft enough spot (and no rocks that it'll hit), because they do bent very easily. Not a big problem though, just need to be careful of where you drive in the stakes.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Just FYI, you might not have the option to buy a 4-oz canister - last time I was there, they had plenty of supplies but only 8-oz cartridges. Quite a few freebies in a milk crate out front of the store, from people dropping them off before taking the seaplane home. All 8-oz. What you could do is take an 8-oz, or 4 oz, plus the 4-oz to finish with and ditch whatever is leftover in the first cartridge into the freebies basket. Someone else might be glad to get just a few more boils on their last night.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
New store in Washington Harbor likely won't have opened, old store had just the 8z cans like previously stated.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
I usually do the same with 2 boils for breakfast (coffee and food) and one in the evening. You might want to try boiling the same amounts at home to see what your burn rate is and add 10-15% for margin. As others have said, the store in Windigo usually sells the larger can. You might check with the rangers at Windigo, they have a crate of unused fuel from the seaplane passengers. You can probably find cans that a large quantity of fuel in them for free.MongooseBoxing wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 2:20 pm I'll actually be boiling 3x a day (breakfast, coffee, dinner), with 7 full days, 1 day with just dinner, and 1 day with just breakfast and coffee, so need 24 boils, which an 8oz canister might fall short of. However I just called the Rock Harbor Lodge and they said even though the Windigo Store isn't open until June 6, if we arrive in Windigo we can still buy basic supplies from there before then, so I think I'll just carry a 4oz canister for days 1-5, then on day 5 pickup another 4oz canister from Windigo (& dump the empty canister there if possible). If I happen to run out before Windigo one of my buddies has a twig-burning stove I can use.
You might want to verify the twig stove is allowed.
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Sounds like my best bet is to just take a full 8oz can from the beginning and call it good.
Twig stoves are allowed, solid fuel burning stoves stoves aren't though according to here (not sure what the difference is though):
https://www.nps.gov/isro/planyourvisit/ ... stoves.htm
Twig stoves are allowed, solid fuel burning stoves stoves aren't though according to here (not sure what the difference is though):
https://www.nps.gov/isro/planyourvisit/ ... stoves.htm
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Re: LighterPack final shakedown
Twig stoves are allowed, I was carrying a solo . Solid fuel like the esbit stoves with solid fuel pellets. Esbit could be twig but would be horribly inefficient. Rocket or Solo for twig imo
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