Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
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Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Is this someone we know? He’s setting up a pay-to-play website for advice and training modules on Isle Royale.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
A fellow on the Facebook group named Duane L'Esperance posted about it a week or two ago. Didn't realize they were monetizing though...
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Training modules?? No thanks. Haha. There’s free info here and on the Facebook pages.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Yeah, I was wondering if this was someone who is active on the forums? The gist appears to be they will teach (via canned modules) and help with trip planning, for a fee. I have often wondered what our collective knowledge is worth, and our years of experience, freely shared with anyone who asks.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
As someone waiting to make his first trip this summer, I would tell you all that you guys are incredible. Learning lots from this site!
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Maybe the forums should buy ad space on the site, to direct some traffic here!
I followed the link to the site, and all the courses posted so far (hydration, cooking, maps . . .) look pretty backpacking boilerplate, that is, not IR specific. I wonder if the site is part of a more general effort? This might enhance its money-making prospects.
I followed the link to the site, and all the courses posted so far (hydration, cooking, maps . . .) look pretty backpacking boilerplate, that is, not IR specific. I wonder if the site is part of a more general effort? This might enhance its money-making prospects.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
My "esperance" is that folks will still find their way here.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Actually, truth is, this kinda profiteering sort of rubs me the wrong way. Especially if someone asks him a question, he comes to the forums with the question, gets lots of good answers, then sells that information to the original asker who is his client. We had a guy doing this on another backpacking forum I'm part of, until we figured it out. Also, if he's helping people plan trips specifically to Isle Royale, does he need a commercial use permit from NPS, even if he never physically takes his clients to the Island, just sends them there?
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
No background on the experience of the site owner listed on the site.torpified wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:45 am Maybe the forums should buy ad space on the site, to direct some traffic here!
I followed the link to the site, and all the courses posted so far (hydration, cooking, maps . . .) look pretty backpacking boilerplate, that is, not IR specific. I wonder if the site is part of a more general effort? This might enhance its money-making prospects.
Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
From an old man and maybe one not so wise who has been going to Isle Royale in all seasons since Moby Dick was a minnow my knowledge of this wondrous place is free for the asking, as it is from all the other old hands on this site. Thanks everybody.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Same here (maybe not since Moby Dick was a minnow)chief54 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:56 am From an old man and maybe one not so wise who has been going to Isle Royale in all seasons since Moby Dick was a minnow my knowledge of this wondrous place is free for the asking, as it is from all the other old hands on this site. Thanks everybody.
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
Yeah, it's Duane and his wife, Beth. Interesting. The guy is a wealth of knowledge and seemed to freely share it on the facebook page.dcclark wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:46 pm A fellow on the Facebook group named Duane L'Esperance posted about it a week or two ago. Didn't realize they were monetizing though...
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Re: Wise Old Man of Isle Royale?
There was some sort of announcement on the Facebook page that all of the "Wise Old Man" stuff is free now.